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PPP 'motivated us to double the size of our buy-to-let property portfolio'
08/10/2015
9:27 am
platinumproperty
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Brothers Chris and Jeremy Tetley from Warrington had worked together in the family business for several years, finally taking over complete management of a portfolio of luxury care homes when their parents retired in 2000.

Feeling that the industry was undergoing some fundamental changes, they decided to sell the care homes in 2005 and take up property developing together instead while also establishing a kitchen and bathroom installation company.

PPP 'motivated us to double the size of our buy-to-let property portfolio' Brothers Chris and Jeremy Tetley from Warrington had worked together in the family business for several years, finally taking over complete management of a portfolio of luxury care homes when their parents retired in 2000. Feeling that the industry was undergoing some fundamental changes, they decided to sell the care homes in 2005 and take up property developing together instead while also establishing a kitchen and bathroom installation company.

During the years after the financial crisis, the brothers found that property development was becoming increasingly more difficult and financially precarious, so they decided to look around for alternative business opportunities. Chris said: "Given the state of the economy at the time, we wanted to find another business opportunity that didn't involve property. We were at a franchise exhibition getting ideas when we came across a presentation by Platinum Property Partners (PPP) - we merely went in to kill some time but what Steve Bolton (Founder and Chairman) said had really got us intrigued."

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09/10/2015
10:00 am
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Will you please advise as to how these LL you are sourcing property for are going to cope with the Budget tax effects etc

As you know many LL are actually selling now because of the budget tax

So do you make your LL aware of the Budget tax effects on the viability of the properties you facilitate fir tor LL clients!!,?

These experienced LL have invariably been the game for years and yet they are exiting the market

What do you know about the budget tax that they don't seem to know as presumably they'd be bearing a path to your door for all your offerings

Or is it the case that you do not mention the way the Budget tax will affect the viability of your property offerings

Hopefully this isn't the case!!

That being the case have you managed to work out a way New LL are unaffected by the Budget tax

If you have we are all ears?!!

I'm fascinated to know how very experienced LL of many tears standing are having to walk up and get your new LL aren't concerned!?

10/10/2015
10:07 pm
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Paul,

You should know that the tax changes don't have much effect on landlords with great positive cash flow.   They badly effect landlords that have rents that only just pay the mortgage.

HMOs done right, have rent levels that are many times more then the mortgage interest,  at worse the tax changes have the same affect then interest rates going up a lot.

12/10/2015
6:15 am
Paul Barrett
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ringi said
Paul,

You should know that the tax changes don't have much effect on landlords with great positive cash flow.   They badly effect landlords that have rents that only just pay the mortgage.

HMOs done right, have rent levels that are many times more then the mortgage interest,  at worse the tax changes have the same affect then interest rates going up a lot.

Got to say I fundamentally disagree with your contentions

I have great positive cashflow but the tax changes will bankrupt me unless I increase my rents substantially

HMO's are NOT representative of the PRS at large

If IR increased then my rents would have to increase even more

I fail to see how PPP can propagate they fantasy of the deals they allegedly arrange

If they are arranging via Ltd companies then I can see they could arrange such deals

There are very few deals that can be sourced and still generate sufficient cashflows to maintain the mortgages

If it was that easy PPP would be multi billionaires

They aren't!!

I believe their deals are a fantasy if they were pulled apart.

LL should beware people like these

Full DD taking into account the budget tax changes should be carried out

I doubt whether many of their LL clients have been informed about the Budget taxes

 

 

12/10/2015
3:40 pm
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Paul,

PPP ONLY does high end HMOs!   When done right the cashflow is very high, but so is the management work the landlord has. As you say these properties are not representative of the PRS at large.

The properties that PPP teaches their members to create require a large amount of capital to set up so most people including me, don’t fit their profile.

13/10/2015
3:22 am
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Ah! yes I see!!

I always remember the brilliant post that P R made about the efficacy of HMO's

This from him as a HMO provider

Put me off for life!

Good luck to those brave enough to bother with HMO's

I wouldn't touch them with a bargepole!!!

It is enough hassle just with normal lettings

I could make more money going down the individual room let in my 2 bed properties; effectively doubling the rent achieved

This is what I will be probably doing when existing tenants vacate

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