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Ignorant landlords deserve bad tenants ...!
11:08 am
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Having just read the following discussion thread on a public Facebook group, I've come to the conclusion that some landlords truly deserve bad tenants!

Just have a read of this and you'll realise why:


Mike P sums it up best:
'If every landlord on this forum alone used http://www.landlordreferencing.co.uk the problem of problem tenants would be almost eradicated. It puts you directly in touch with the landlord who uploaded the tenant's details. Sam you're wrong, websites can't hold a 'blacklist' of tenants, so landlordrefencing is the best we're going to get at the moment.'

Organically #2 place on Google for 'tenant referencing' (just pipped to 1st place by Homelet, who have been in the industry for over 25 years), ICO compliant for the last 7 years with 0 complaints and the biggest database of 'real-time' Tenant Histories direct from the previous landlord/agent - and landlords still ignore the best way to avoid bad tenants and keep their good tenants happy... WHY?!?! Yell

It really isn't rocket science how the system works and remains ICO compliant, but I'd like to reiterate how data sharing at Landlord Referencing has been working for proactive landlords for the last 7 years now:

  • Landlord 1 enters their applicant tenants name into the system.
  • MATCH to entry in the Tenant History database.
  • Landlord 1 provided with Landlord 2's details who uploaded the tenant, in order to give a true and honest reference. NO SENSITIVE TENANT DATA SHARED, JUST THE LANDLORDS CONTACT DETAILS.

Furthermore, our manual data control by a bank of vigilant data processors prevents bad landlords ruining good tenants chances of finding a nice home by uploading false information onto the system.

A simple analogy is that it is like a chain link fence. There is a huge pool of information that is linking landlords and letting agents together throughout the UK. Landlords Referencing acts as the posts that keep the sections upright and rigid so that each link stays in situ as strong as the last. Every time one member tells another landlord or agent about LRS and they then become a member, that gives all of us another link in the fence and more information in the pool.

Landlord Referencing is not about referencing against the information a tenant gives you, it is about taking a reference against the information that they DON'T give you. No tenant is going to give you their previous landlord if they know that they have either ripped them off or damaged their property.

So if you want to stop getting ripped off by rogue tenants and warn others all you have to do is join us here: http://www.landlord-referencin.....co.uk/join

Find full information on how we comply with the Information Commissioners Office can be found here: http://www.landlord-referencin.....rotection/

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12:36 pm
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I'd just like to share the following conversation I've had with a new member today:

'I came across your website because I want to register a bad tenant, as we've had a few bad tenants in our time, but I don't want to pay the £10 activation fee...'

So I begin to explain all the services that are available at Tenant Referencing UK, to get the reply:

'I'm happy with my letting agent as they only charge me £400 to do everything and I don't need anything else...'

I then explained to her that the £10 to activate will sit on her account until she needs to use it, to reference future tenants or against other services we can offer.

Her reply: 'My agent does all that for me. They use professional referencing services and I'm happy with them...'

Sorry, but AM I OFF MY HEAD HERE?!

She comes to us to register her bad tenant, which she's got from a letting agent who continues to use a sub standard referencing company, and she doesn't want to use our service because she's happy with the bad tenants she's getting ?! ?! ?!!!!!!!!!
AND doesn't want to pay the £10 activation fee, to go towards her future referencing, because she won't be checking in the future whether someone else has registered a bad tenant anyway...


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Afraid Paul you are up against some truly idiot LL.

There isn't much you can do with such LL.

They cannot understand that they should change their ways.

They usually aren't logical and don't know how to run a Lettings business

Still look on the bright side as long as there are idiot LL like this, but who do register their bad ones with you at least you will continue to build a database of wronguns.

The LL will continue with their dysfunctional LA and suffer losses because of them

More fool them.

So even if these dopey LL choose not to use other LRS services the least they should do is register them with LRS.

So perhaps offer a free service to LL who only wish to register bad tenants, but don't wish to use any other LRS services

Above all we don't want these stupid LL to be disincentivised from registering their wronguns

We who choose to be full LRS members can take advantage of the idiot LL that choose to register their wronguns but at their expense 

As long as they contribute to the register why should us more savvy LL be concerned if these stupid LL lose out by continuing to use processes which CONTINUE to cause them losses!!

It is of course a great shame that these idiot LL persist in their incompetent business methodologies, but that is their choice.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink!

All LRS can do is continue to educate LL as to the error of their ways

But fundamentally we do not want to prevent these LL from registering their wrongun tenants.

I'd rather this occur for nothing than to have the minor disincentive of a £10 fee to be used at a later stage.

So don't let's throw the baby out of the bathwater!

The £10 charge could be charged for any other LRS usage except for those just registering wrongun tenants

Very few LL will bother registering good tenants even though this service is equally offered by LRS.

It is vitally important that dopey LL continue to register their duff tenants, we don't want to put them off!!

So perhaps a slight LRS admin adjustment to its processes to allow such LL to register their duff tenants cost free!!!?

8:49 pm

Good point, Paul B!

It's complete and utter madness that dopey landlords like the one mentioned by Paul R are alive - but not kicking!!!  None so deaf as those that don't want to hear.....

However, for us better informed landlords.... is there not an opportunity out there to have the dopey landlords' duff tenants on our LRS list of DON'TS?

Perhaps there's an inverse business model that could work???? 

If the dopey landlords won't pay £10 towards ensuring themselves of a better tenant next time, perhaps we need to pay THEM £5 for their dodgy tenants' details to engage them another way?? Spilling the beans would have to be supported of course.... but that could open the door to a whole new set of conversations!!  There must be a way to engage this market!


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I think most dopey LL just want to register the duff tenants as at least something they can do against the tenant.

Most of these dopey LL know there is no possibility of recovery from the tenants and so don't bother with CCJ etc.

I believe that LRS rather than paying LL for their duff tenant details should use the LRS service to encourage those dopey LL to at least have some revenge in registering those tenants on a bad tenant website.

Such LL feel so disempowered as it is.

Obviously that then gives the boys and girls of LRS opportunity to market their wares to those LL, but without ANY prerequisite for LL to pay to register those duff tenants

But if the LL don't wish to play ball the least they should be able to do is register their wronguns for FREE

I'm sure LRS will have some success in undopifying some of these LL and convert them to full members

If a £10 fee deters LL from registering their wronguns then the fee should be dropped for such.

The bigger the database the better.

And as those dopey LL keep on returning to LRS to register their wronguns for FREE they might just start to get the message that LRS works better than their usual LA!!!

It is imperative that LRS continues to build up its database

Therefore to forego the £10 fee is a small price to pay for ensuring dopey LL come to LRS to register their wronguns!!

As P R has stated on numerous occasions the bigger the list of wronguns the better us savvy LRS LL can swerve the dodgy tenants

I certainly DON'T want any LL put off from registering duff tenants because of a fee.

So I say drop the FEE and market the fact on the web etc that ANY LL may register their wronguns for FREE!!!

That will be very appealing to the many dopey disgruntled LL who have been ripped off again by another of their trusted LA tenant selections!!!!

So perhaps LRS just needs to adjust its charging structure as it seems there is resistance from LL to pay to register duff tenants

That being the case we have to accept that this is their mindset

So for the sake of £10 let them register Free!

If they want to further use LRS services then charge the £10 fee!!

I believe as I've stated above that if you can encourage LL to cone to you because you are free then you have the opportunity to market to them other services

They may not choose to join there and then, but I reckon eventually many will see the light and join, paying their £10

It makes a good strapline


Register your bad tenant for FREE!!!

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